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The Removal of Horns on Goats

The following information has been complied for general reference and educational purposes only. It is not intended, in any way to replace professional veterinary advice or care for your goats. The following information was originally compiled from various sources (on-line, books, anecdotally, and person experience) that reported the successful application of the following on goats, as listed. This information is presented without any guarantee. Any person making the decision to act upon this information should consult with their Veterinarian first and is solely responsible for the effects of their own actions.

Using Embryo Wire or Cutters to Dehorn Goats
In a search done in June 2007, I found the following: Dehorning of goats (as distinct from disbudding) should only be performed under general anaesthesia or narcosis. Dehorning should only be performed by, or under the supervision of, a registered veterinary practitioner (Animal Welfare Act 2002).
Some Breeders have used embryo wire or cutters to cut a goat's horns off. When we first started removing horns, we were shown how to cut them off with cutters. There is a lot of blood. The base of the horn is hollow, so when it is cut off, it leaves a hole in the head that is part of the sinus cavity. The procedure should not be done on a really hot day and the animal should not have been running around too much prior to the operation as this will increase the amount of blood lost. When using embryo wire, the sawing action often seals the blood vessels off, there will be a lot less blood with this method.
If the animal has small horns it will have small holes. When cut, the blood will usually congeal to fill the hole, dehorning powder is applied to help dry the area and to help prevent infection. Smaller holes are left open.
Our Vet bandaged the animals with big open cavities (big horns removed) to offer the animal a little protection for its open sinus cavity. It is very important that the cavity NOT be cleaned out or allowed to get wet, as it will slow the healing process. It is normal for wound holes to develop a smelly mucus discharge that lasts from 1 to 8 weeks depending on the size of the hole. It will get VERY mucky so it will need to have de-horning powder applied to try to keep it as dry as possible. An antiseptic spray with a fly repellent should be used daily to keep the flies away until the area appears to be dry. We applied this at feed time when the goats had their heads down, rather than having to wrestle them later. The hole will eventually close, it can take anywhere up to 4 months to completely heal causing no real problems for the animal. Cut horns will continue to grow.
After experiencing the process and now knowing that the horns continue to grow when cut, we will not put horned goats through this form of dehorning. We try not to buy horned goats.

Using emasculating rings to dehorn goats.
Some breeders have used emasculating rings to dehorn their goats. We found a couple of websites on the Internet that describe the process: Two or three rings are put at the base of each horn in the hairline, (sometimes the first one needs to be taped on, then the other rings are put over this further down into the hairline).
The rings cut off the circulation to the growing horns causing them to fall off, usually 2-8 weeks, sometimes longer (depending on the size of the horn and the age of the animal). It is a non-invasive technique (you do not end up with a big hole in the goats head, the area actually closes in), and it requires no specific after care or maintenance, unless they get bumped off early, in which case you would apply dehorning powder.
This method does work, if you can get the rings down far enough and provided they do not roll back off the horn. It is best to put three and sometimes four rings at the base of each horn (helps prevent them rolling back off or perishing before they have long enough to "cut in". It is NOT recommended that a groove be cut into the base of the horn and horns should be long enough and not too tapered.
It is painful for the animal for as long as 3-4 hours after application and the animal often sits away from everyone until the horns finally fall off, in an effort to avoid being bumped. Provided the goat does not hook the horn/s on something just before they are ready to come off, the horn/s will fall off on their own, without any sign of pain and usually do not grow back.
In my opinion, even though it works, I dont believe that we should wait until the animal is 12mths or so to dehorn in this manner especially when disbudding is so much easier, less stressful and a quicker procedure for the animal.


Horn Stories
The following are some of the many stories that I remember in my many years of keeping these wonderful little creatures……

All of our original goats were horned. We had a very small handful of goats (in the beginning) who were all kept out the paddock, away from the house. Most of these animals were "RESCUES", animals that people no longer wanted and destined for the "meat works". I would have to go out two or three times a day to pull goats out of the fencing (stuck by horns) and they were always fed over the fence as they were very rough with each other at feed time (grain) poking and pushing each other and we always managed to get in between two squabbling animals and get poked.

I remember one animal in particular, a big shaggy buck with the most beautiful (and very impressive) set of horns on him. A lovely natured thing but pretty scary looking, I admit. The owner's neighbours had told my mum, who of course told me, that this poor creature had been tied to a tree in the back paddock (near a water trough) a few years back and just left there to fend for himself. Sure enough, when I contacted the owner, they were only too happy for me to "come out and remove it". Their kids had wanted him as a baby, fed him on the bottle then as he grew they didn't want to play with him anymore because they were scared of his horns. Dad took him down the paddock and tied him up under a tree and this is where he stayed. Covered in 30-40cm of thick matted hair, full of lice and a bag of bones, barely able to stand but happy to have a little attention…..what a wonderful life……
After months of TLC he scrubbed up beautifully, and was gentle and friendly enough to be re-homed at a farm stay park (living off the tether, but behind a fence for safety reasons) with a small group of his own kind!

We had two big boys (one a rescue), that we kept in a big round yard. They became best of mates and often enjoyed playing "push around" games. One morning I came out to find the smaller of the two, hooked up by the back leg, in between his mates horns. He had quite a nasty gash in his tummy, obviously from his struggle to free himself and his buddy had a blood nose and swollen eye, possibly from being slammed into the ground as his friend tried to get free…….

I was bending down over the feed dish giving it a clean just as one of my 3mth old bottle babies was bringing its head up for a cuddle. I coped a very pointy horn under my jaw and I saw stars…..

Drenching goats….what a job. We would pop them in the round yard and rig up some portable fencing to use as a runway, letting the dosed goats back out into the paddock as we went so they were not double dosed. Well, even the most quiet of goats will not stand to take her medicine and by the end of the day, both of us had scratches, poke marks and bruises on arms, legs and the odd bump on the boob.....

I had a young doe hook into her mate at dinner time, ripping a hole up under the inside of her leg, requiring 8 stitches. The little doe could not walk on her leg for a week or so after the incident….I asked several Dairy goat breeders about removing horns and contacted our local vet.

My daughter (2yrs old) was cuddling one of her bottle babies sitting on her lap and it swung its head back and she was hit with the little horn 2cm away from her eye. She did not need stitches but she sure had a nice big black eye the next morning…. After this incident, we bought a disbudding iron for removing horns from our next lot of baby goats. We then decided to sell off the goats we had with horns and remove horns from the ones that we wanted to keep......

I was told by a breeder a few years back that one of her little does hooked its horns through the collar on it's mate while rubbing her head on the other ones shoulder. From what I remember, the Breeder found the pair the next morning, one mate dead, the other in pretty bad shape…

A year or two ago, my mums neighbour's dogs decided that they would play "tag" with his goat, a big friendly horned wether kept in their backyard (on about 2acres). This poor little goat tried with all his effort to fend the dog off but it just made the dogs even more excited that the goat was "playing" back. Everyone tried to help this goat, but the dogs were simply too aggressive and excited. The poor animal laid their moaning, while the dogs basically "chowed down" on his legs and belly. The owners arrived home just before the police arrived, we left not long after…..

I remember Launa Fredline telling me about a big fox that would sneak into the goat shed and even with the mother goats trying to fend him off, he would still manage to pinch 3-4 new kids each night during the kidding season……

I have a friend's goat over today and she has horns. I was giving her some worm medicine and as I tipped her head back, oww, the tip of her horn poked into my leg. I will have a little bruise there tomorrow, I had to giggle to myself though, as it brought back old memories......




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